grendelkhan ([info]grendelkhan) wrote,
@ 2007-03-09 00:41:00
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the art renewal center.
Even more testing today. Carin's feeling a bit better, well enough to go to work. She got sent back home shortly thereafter, having left her breakfast there. An insensitive coworker told her she was probably pregnant, and had morning sickness. (She's not, and some cursory research tells me that morning sickness is primarily nausea. Carin is having dizziness, which is leading to nausea if it gets too intense.)

Normally, I think of any anti-Modernist movement as a uniformly bad thing, attached to the trappings of modernity as I am. On the other hand, Modernism as an art movement is something I never really got. It all seems like an endless rehash of a moderately clever joke Marcel Duchamp told once. I've recently become rather fascinated by the Art Renewal Center (Wikipedia article), which is all about art prior to modernity, which is, come to think of it, the sort of thing that art types go nuts over, but only if it was made more than a hundred and fifty years ago. It's as though photography put the kibosh on realistic art.

That's Dante and Virgil in Hell on the left, there. Now, I know almost nothing about art. I know strikes me as beautiful, and that's about it. I've tried to read some of the posted essays on the ARC site, but they come off as impenetrable--written in another language. But the art, to me, speaks for itself.

When I took a drawing class (I learned that I don't have the patience to draw well), we took a field trip down the hall to see some visiting art. It consisted of a set of vertical lines, evenly spaced. Well, we thought, at lest they're evenly spaced. It turned out that the artist had engineered some racks to which multiple paintbrushes could be attached. She gave a long and confusing talk about what her art meant, and on the way back, we asked our instructor if perhaps we could be bullshit artists instead of trying to draw that damned heap of cloth again. He replied that no, we couldn't do that until we reached graduate school.

This art--it's the sort of thing Concrete would have on his walls. Of course, because it's public domain, I can actually afford to hang it on my walls in poster form, if I so desire.

Of course, what none of the glowing exegeses on the work of William-Adolphe Bouguereau (the fellow responsible for the piece posted here) mention is the incredible unabashed sexism that drips from these works. (Darn you, "Women's Studies in the Arts"; now I can't un-notice it!) It's not so evident in this one here (no women), but in something like Hylas and the Nymphs or Nymphs and Satyr, consisting of dewy, idealized, eager-looking women throwing themselves harem-style at one guy, or perhaps just sitting around looking ornamentally accessible... it's absolutely ridiculous; it's like the eight hundred pound elephant in the room, that nobody writing about the artists notices. I can't be the only one, here.

Of course, I remember seeing that re-gendered version of The Turkish bath and all, but it amazes me that people can write about the art and not notice how painfully sexist it is. Real pretty, though. I do appreciate quality craftsmanship, and these guys are all about that.

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[info]mesoterica
2007-03-11 08:09 am UTC (link)
My God, that Feministe post is horrifying. Not least because it is so reminiscent of my own online scariness (though obviously not to that scale, thank God). Glad to see your comments there to reaffirm my faith in humanity a bit :)

Also, re: Turkish bath - dude, there's a re-gendered version? Happen to know where I could see it? I'd try Googling, but for real, I do NOT want to know the kind of freaky shit that comes up with input like "re-gendered Turkish bath"...

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[info]grendelkhan
2007-03-11 07:07 pm UTC (link)
Holy crap, people read the comments? I'm surprised.

Yeah, what really gets me about the whole AutoAdmit deal is how slimy the guys involved are. It's not so much that they're a shower of sociopathic assholes who think that women don't count as real people; it's that they go around crying crocodile tears over the valuable resource that these Mean Feminists are picking on, and baldly proclaiming that posting a photograph on a publically-accessible URL relinquishes copyright, which any first-year law student knows is bullshit. These guys deserve nothing but the greatest amount of scorn and sunlight that can be dumped on their little organization. I sincerely hope that the site admins get their legal careers flushed because of this--unlike the women victimized by the boards, they deserve it. They'll make wonderful lawyers, I'll bet. Ugh.

As for the Turkish Bath... Ah, found it! It's by Sylvia Sleigh. The article's pretty short, since I just wrote it, but you can see both paintings there.

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avisionadrift
2007-03-11 10:03 pm UTC (link)
It's interesting that you would see art as sexist when it's an expression of what is going on in the artist's mind or what he/she believes will actually sell and earn them some money. You put such a negative aspect on it.

Most of the old world art, the vast majority in fact, was made by men for men...It's what attracted attention and what sold. If you make a piece of art that portrays men in a subservient light, you'll probably upset some men but not most men.

Sex is important to men. We love women (generally). Is it any surprise that we paint you, sculpt you, sing about you and generally express our desire for your physical beauty?

Your opening premise explains much about art and can be summed up in the phrase "I don't know much about Art but I know what I like"...so the artist may be doing his/her best technique for the critics but the subject matter is all for the uneducated masses...

Men like women. Why is it that the love of women is seen as sexist? A negative word if there ever was one.

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[info]grendelkhan
2007-03-14 05:13 am UTC (link)
Just because art is an expression of something deeply felt doesn't mean it's not sexist. Dave Sim's essays are deeply felt, and I assure you, they're sexist. Nothing in your first two paragraphs addresses my point. If it's sexist, and men like it, it's still sexist. If it's sexist, and it sells well, it's still sexist. Do you see a pattern here?

The love of women, as you put it, isn't inherently sexist. Pictures of naked women aren't inherently sexist. Depicting women as passive sex objects is sexist, and is hardly loving. I have a hard time seeing how The Nymphaeum, for instance, is about seeing women as people, rather than as ornaments. Men would never be depicted in that way, because it's demeaning. See Sylvia Sleigh's recreation of Ingres' The Turkish Bath to see what I mean.

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